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		<title>Grid Talk</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[My good friend Derrick Fish and I recently got online to critique each other&#8217;s new artwork and talk about random shit.  This is what happens when artists try to trade ideas&#8230; Amor: So since you’ve got WELLKEEPER in the works, and that’s pretty much horror-fantasy, I HIGHLY recommend getting the first trade for Locke and [...]]]></description>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><!--[endif]--> My good friend Derrick Fish and I recently got online to critique each other&#8217;s new artwork and talk about random shit.  This is what happens when artists try to trade ideas&#8230;</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: #ff9900;"><strong>Amor:</strong></span> So since you’ve got <a href="http://www.thewellkeeper.com/">WELLKEEPER</a> in the works, and that’s pretty much horror-fantasy, I HIGHLY recommend getting the first trade for Locke and Key. I stake my nerd cred on it. It’s got the most clever paneling I’ve seen in years. Gabriel Rodriguez is a bastard.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: #ff9900;"><strong>Fish:</strong></span> Now THAT&#8217;S a tough one for me. After years of doing a comic strip, I&#8217;ve all but forgotten how to lay out a page in anything but a grid.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: #ff9900;"><strong>Amor:</strong></span> Not necessarily a bad thing though, right? Grids work. But no&#8230; I don’t mean L&amp;K does overlapping shit. It’s also mostly grids in that, but the angles and figure placement, man… fucking brilliant.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: #ff9900;"><strong>Fish:</strong></span> That&#8217;s also what I&#8217;m thinking of. My staging is bland compared to the stuff I did just out of high school, and that&#8217;s not good. I&#8217;m getting a little of my groove back on &#8220;The Line&#8221; setting the camera at more than just eye level, but I feel like it&#8217;s a muscle I haven&#8217;t flexed properly in too long. I want to find a good balance between interesting and clear. I don&#8217;t want camera work SO clever that it kicks readers out of the story, or so straightforward that it puts them to sleep.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: #ff9900;"><strong>Amor:</strong></span> I understand that.  It actually pisses me off when people do all these &#8220;clever&#8221; angles when they’re just doing a conversation scene, like with the camera in-between the first and second knuckle&#8230; and looking up at the subject. Whatever, man. It&#8217;s just&#8230; pedantic to me.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: #ff9900;"><strong>Fish:</strong></span> Haha! It draws attention to itself.  Is the knuckle important? Why are we looking through knuckles?!?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: #ff9900;"><strong>Amor:</strong></span> Because we caaaaaaaan!!!</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: #ff9900;"><strong>Fish:</strong></span> Now, maybe the person talking is a bruiser and his knuckles are battered&#8230; but if the conversation is between Aunt May and Mary Jane&#8230; Why be clever just to show how clever you are?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: #ff9900;"><strong>Amor:</strong></span> Exactly.</p>
<div id="attachment_721" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 253px"><img class="size-medium wp-image-721" title="John Amor and Derrick Fish" src="http://johnamorartist.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/sand-300x225.jpg" alt="sand" width="243" height="183" /><p class="wp-caption-text">John Amor and Derrick Fish</p></div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="color: #ff9900;">Fish:</span> </strong>In film, a good example of this was in &#8220;Panic Room&#8221;, where Fincher kept zooming the faux camera through every crack in the wall for a &#8220;Wooooshy&#8221; shot.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: #ff9900;"><strong>Amor:</strong></span> See&#8230; on the street&#8230; away from you and your fancy films&#8230; me and my boys just call it the Mortal Kombat effect.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: #ff9900;"><strong>Fish:</strong></span> Elaborate&#8230;</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: #ff9900;"><strong>Amor:</strong></span> &#8220;Wooooshy&#8221; is too technical a term for us, good sir.  MK the movie would have these two-minute cut scenes where we&#8217;d circle a CGI castle and then whoosh in through the window or some shit. And I appreciate that they were trying to imply scale and grandeur, but it totally sucked me out of the movie.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: #ff9900;"><strong>Fish:</strong></span> OH MY LORD, I know what you&#8217;re talking about. God, that can get irritating.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: #ff9900;"><strong>Amor:</strong></span> It sorta happened in King Kong, but Jackson caught himself, I think. He was all, &#8220;Shit&#8230; I&#8217;m totally Mortal Kombatting this fucking bigiature scene.&#8221;</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: #ff9900;"><strong>Fish:</strong></span> Indeed. And I LOVED King Kong but he totally did that. “LOOOOOKKKK&#8230;. a big WALL!!! Wooooosh!!!”</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: #ff9900;"><strong>Amor:</strong></span> YES!!! Ah well…but you summed it up, why be clever just to show how clever you are? Fuck you and your astute summations.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: #ff9900;"><strong>Fish:</strong></span> My thoughts on that are if you can&#8217;t make a move with your REAL camera, don&#8217;t make it with your digital CGI camera. It just SCREAMS &#8220;COMPUTER EFFECT!!! NOT REAL!!!&#8221; That&#8217;s one of the millions of reasons I loved Iron Man. No Mortal Kombat camera wooshes.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: #ff9900;"><strong>Amor:</strong></span> Oh oh&#8230; Crystal Skull.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: #ff9900;"><strong>Fish:</strong></span> WOOOOOOSSSSHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: #ff9900;"><strong>Amor:</strong></span> Hahaha!</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: #ff9900;"><strong>Fish:</strong></span> Especially when Sam Witwicky becomes fucking Tarzan. Yeesh!</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: #ff9900;"><strong>Amor:</strong></span> I know, right? Then the whole fencing-on-two-jeeps sequence. I felt sorry for that scene. You know a movie&#8217;s bad when you actually feel an undeniable amount of lurid sympathy for it.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: #ff9900;"><strong>Fish:</strong></span> Spielberg&#8217;s first idea was to shoot it with the same techniques and practical effects that the other three were made with and Lucas talked him out of it. That was a cool enough IDEA, but ruined in the execution. I SOOO wish Spielberg would have gone with his first instinct.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: #ff9900;"><strong>Amor:</strong></span> What’s funny is I could tell the color palette was off&#8230; and I’m practically colorblind.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: #ff9900;"><strong>Fish:</strong></span> Hahahaha!  There was too much &#8220;Here&#8217;s reality&#8221; and &#8220;Here&#8217;s CGI.&#8221;</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: #ff9900;"><strong>Amor:</strong></span> It felt like the Mummy.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: #ff9900;"><strong>Fish:</strong></span> Indeed. And not even the FIRST Mummy when it was still kinda under control. But the shitty Mummy Returns with the video game Scorpion King. I&#8217;m trying to think of other good comic book examples, but movies are so much easier.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: #ff9900;"><strong>Amor:</strong></span> See&#8230; I feel like there&#8217;s a rule about CGI. If it&#8217;s gonna be for something simple like&#8230; a tidal wave or a big car crash&#8230; then it better be good. If it&#8217;s gonna be bad&#8230; then at least make the creature or robot design fucking awesome.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: #ff9900;"><strong>Fish:</strong></span> Indeed.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: #ff9900;"><strong>Amor:</strong></span> We&#8217;re such nerds.</p>
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